Showing posts with label DREAM military OPTION. Show all posts
Showing posts with label DREAM military OPTION. Show all posts

Saturday, March 28, 2009

DREAMers speak on Progressives opposing DREAM

Dreamactivist lays down a very good post on why some progessives continue to oppose the DREAM act because of the military provision.

In the past, Dream Act Texas has discussed this issue, but today we let dreamactivist further explain this.
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Why do some 'Progressives' Oppose the DREAM Act? And Why They are Wrong

by DREAM Activist

Published March 28, 2009 @ 01:54PM PST

Several important allies have raised some crucial points that hinder progressive support for the DREAM Act—points that several activist students have had to encounter in the form of artless dissent from leftist intellectuals and liberals.

We are talking about dissenters like the Association of La Raza Educators, Immigrant Solidarity Network, American Friends and Service Committee, a few Latino immigrant rights activists, and even the National Lawyers Guild that refuses to take a stance on the DREAM Act. Why? They dislike the military provision in the DREAM Act that could make certain ethnic minority students such as Latino kids in the barrios more susceptible to recruitment by military officials. This is not a moot point—it is a cause for concern but it requires several hundred grams of historicizing and perspective.

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Wednesday, March 19, 2008

Military provision, an OPTION, a CHOICE, a DREAM


I would be the person with the differing opinion from La Raza Educators and those opposing the provision...and I'm glad debating is an option...


1. Europe is the same, they HATE "undocumented"..NOT assuming that that's what anyone would do..I'm not sure how fast and easy Mexico deals with visas to move/work/travel in Europe...and i also do not know the process but, will definitely call my contacts to figure it out and inform others...this article gives you more insight...Illegal Immigrants Become Focus of the Election Campaign in Italy (http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/28/international/europe/28italy.html)

2. Over 4,000 soldiers have received their citizenship within the last 5 years of the "war empty of reason"...no matter what, if that is their will, then they will serve no matter what...Had there not been present WAR activity would you feel the same? What if it were a different cause? -not that loosing lives is GOOD, and for the record I disapprove of the WAR - WAR IS A WEAPON Of MASS DESTRUCTION...check out more debate here: Outlook: Short on Soldiers? Not if They'd Take Non-Citizens (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2007/06/01/DI2007060101622.html)

3. If my friends desire to serve our country and be part of the military, I will not stop his or her CHOICE/DREAM...It is there OPTION, DESIRE AND GOAL...I'm sure many would like to have a professional career from the armed forces...and to say "Some of them don't mind [going into the military]," Victor Contrers said. "They did that stuff in Mexico, and they wouldn't mind doing it here to get their legal paperwork" from the article and below blog: Should we give citizenship to those who serve? - Now that is just plain ignorant...we are talking about students who have lived in this country for over 5 years, who for the most part have learned the English language, are looking forward to graduating from HS and college, and have never done any type of military service, who exactly did he think we were talking about, my 53 year-old tio JOSE, Comandante de las Fuerzas Armadas Mexicanas, who just recently arrived from Mexico?(I'm being sarcastic)

4. I truly do not feel that all this was planned...The military department can make a proposal/law at any time for recruiting purpose to obtain a path toward citizenship if you enlist... and then what? the likelihood that students join would be higher than if they had the OPTION/CHOICE to fulfill 1 of the three... Receive 2-year degree-associates or complete 2-years of a 4 year degree or serve in the military for 2-years within a 6-year period.

5. Contrers says.. "You're going to prey on the weakest members of society," said Sheppard, who said he thinks the war was poorly handled. "They are trying to look for some sort of cheap way of filling the ranks."............... Are DREAMERs really the WEAKEST members of society, if they have succeeded a lifetime of education, becoming overachieving, talented youth?... for the most part most stories of undocumented students shared from across the country state that they were brought as a "CHILD..." they are as American as I am and have been educated in the same environment, probably in a richer environment, but it is hard to say well educated DREAMERS will overflow the recruiting offices if they have choices. I can't say that all DREAMERS are education-driven, but I can say that those around me never speak about joining the military if the DREAM Act passed.

I am opened-minded, and I read lots of stories of US citizens who disagree with the mission and direction the WAR has taken and in many ways this problem has influenced the way we feel about DREAMERS opting for the military provision. It breaks my heart on a daily basis to hear that innocent Iraqis are also paying the consequences. Nobody is right or wrong, I respect everyones opinion, but my opinion, beliefs and values will not influences someone Else's DREAM.

I wish that ALL IMMIGRANTES be allowed a path toward citizenship...

We need COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION REFORM NOW!!!